Saturday, June 04, 2005
Is Labour a socialist party?
Of course we on the centre-right will say yes. Jordan Carter is not so sure. This from his blog:
"Labour and National simply debate how better to administer capitalism, and even within that debate the differences are not vast. We have different ideological bases but neither party proposes to fundamentally change the role of the state. Accepting that fact can be hard for ideologues on either side, but it's the truth".
I suspect he is probably right. Maybe Labour is a soft capitalist party. If so, why does Young Labour write this when promoting their last summer school?
That's the thing about cold wet nights inside in front of the fire. You get to surf stuff you probably never would.
"Labour and National simply debate how better to administer capitalism, and even within that debate the differences are not vast. We have different ideological bases but neither party proposes to fundamentally change the role of the state. Accepting that fact can be hard for ideologues on either side, but it's the truth".
I suspect he is probably right. Maybe Labour is a soft capitalist party. If so, why does Young Labour write this when promoting their last summer school?
That's the thing about cold wet nights inside in front of the fire. You get to surf stuff you probably never would.
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I get what Jordan is trying to say but I think his summary is structured to deceive, and I think he knows it.
You contemplate whether Labour is a 'soft capitalist party', which is exactly what Labour and its Party hacks want you to think. Why? Because the principles of the free market have historical credibility. And this is good for placating 'on the fence' voters.
In my opnion it is clear that Labour is, in fact, a 'soft socialist party'. Collectivism and statism are at its core, and the less public opposition they get, the faster they will move towards these core values.
The Young Labour website is, of course, more honest. It embraces the collectivist philosophy of socialism and freely uses its language.
It is National that is the 'soft capitalist party'. Individual liberty and the free market are at its core, and similarly, the less public opposition they get, the faster they will move towards these core values.
It is no accident that Labour sits comfortably with more honest socialist groupings like the Greens, Progressives and the Alliance, and that National sits comfortably with more honest proponents of the free market and of individual liberty, like ACT.
By the way, it was a cold wet night when I found your site! Pretty good - I'll be back.
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You contemplate whether Labour is a 'soft capitalist party', which is exactly what Labour and its Party hacks want you to think. Why? Because the principles of the free market have historical credibility. And this is good for placating 'on the fence' voters.
In my opnion it is clear that Labour is, in fact, a 'soft socialist party'. Collectivism and statism are at its core, and the less public opposition they get, the faster they will move towards these core values.
The Young Labour website is, of course, more honest. It embraces the collectivist philosophy of socialism and freely uses its language.
It is National that is the 'soft capitalist party'. Individual liberty and the free market are at its core, and similarly, the less public opposition they get, the faster they will move towards these core values.
It is no accident that Labour sits comfortably with more honest socialist groupings like the Greens, Progressives and the Alliance, and that National sits comfortably with more honest proponents of the free market and of individual liberty, like ACT.
By the way, it was a cold wet night when I found your site! Pretty good - I'll be back.
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